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Message started by Gachade on 01/24/10 at 3:56pm

Title: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Gachade on 01/24/10 at 3:56pm
I thought I'd start a new topic about the good DVD editions of Peckinpah' films out there (quality + bonuses).
The idea is to see what's best and what would still be needed...
I probably do not know all that's available out there, so please correct me if you feel there is something better.

The Deadly Companions
I only have the St-Clair Vision all regions edition which seems to have a decent picture quality, and a very bad french edition (Bach films). No bonuses. Can't wait to see Mike's edition - once again : good luck, Mike!
By the way, does anyone have the Fremantle edition? How is it?

Ride The High Country
The Warner western boxed set.

Major Dundee
The Columbia Tristar restaured edition seems to be what's best. Will we ever see more cut scenes (especially the opening at the Rostes ranch)? Who knows...

The Wild Bunch
The Warner western boxed set.

The Ballad Of Cable Hogue
The Warner western boxed set.

Straw Dogs
The Fremantle edition, full of bonuses, and Mike's excelent edition made for Euro Video.

Junior Bonner
I have the MGM Western Legends edition with the audio commentary by Paul Seydor, Garner Simmos, David Weddle and Nick Redman. Somehow I miss the fact it doesn't have more bonuses...

The Getaway
The WB edition with commentaries - including a made up commentary by Peckinpah, Steve McQueen and Ali MacGraw.
Somehow I miss a nice documentary there...
I've heard the Wanted Dead Or Alive box set has a documentary about McQueen with some footage from the shooting of the Getaway, but I haven't got around to checking it out.

Pat Garrett And Billy The Kid
The Warner western boxed set - and hoping for a new edition, ideally with the MGM and the Turner versions in good quality and a maybe new one? Or with at least all missing scenes as bonuses...

Bring Me The Head Of Alfredo Garcia
The MGM edition with audio commentaries. A documentary about Oates would be nice though...

The Killer Elite
I have MGM edition with the film's trailer as only bonus. I must confess I'm not a big fan of that film (though I like the scene where they approach the big ship - and Fielding's score has great moments) so I'm not missing any special bonuses. But maybe someone has another opinion.

Cross Of Iron
I only have a Korean edition of this one. Some of you can probably recommend something better.
I'm missing some bonuses here. At least the yougoslavian one - by the way, is there a way to get it somehow?

Convoy
I only have a french edition made by Canal +, with no bonuses. Is there something better?

The Osterman Weekend
The Anchor bay edition.
I also have a french edition which is practically identical, with two more featurettes in french : one about Peckinpah in general and about Ludlum.

Mike's Passion And Poetry is a must have.

As for peckinpah's TV work, about all of it is available via fans.
I think at least the Westerner and Noon Wine would definitely deserve a proper DVD edition.

And as for peckinpah's cameos:
Is there a way to get Dial Red O?
There seems to be no DVD of An Annapolis Story yet. It is on VHS though.
Does anyone have the WB Archive Collection edition of Wichita?
Invasion Of The Body Snatchers is on DVD, with an interview of Kevin McCarthy.
I must confess I haven't even seen Chain Of Evidence...
Does anyone have a good edition of China 9, Liberty 37?
I only have The Visitor on VHS...
There is another thread on the spanish film.

I seem to remember one of the Julian Lenon videos is on a box set of viedoclips from the 80s.

Any other ideas?...

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Mike S. on 01/25/10 at 6:10am
I guess Nate wanted to start a DVD corner / topics...
That would be good. Each film deserves a DVD-thread..

Looks like I just found an US 35mm trailer for TRIGGER HAPPY (Deadly Companions re-release 1963)! That's the only Sam-Film I never saw a trailer... Great find for our DVD.

I tried to launch a German SE DVD for Junior Bonner, (same label
that holds Straw Dogs), but it 'wasn't commercial enough'. Just sad.

Same with CROSS OF IRON. I'll make a long doc about CROSS, maybe going down to Slovenia. But the German rights were taken by CANAL+ and they don't seem to care at all.
Does ANYBODY have a DVD contact to Japan?

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Gachade on 01/25/10 at 4:46pm
I just realised I forgot to mention the Straw Dogs Criterion edition with the Man Of Iron documentary, as well as the Henstooth Cross Of Iron edition, with audio commentary by Stephen Prince.
Japan would be a good idea. I'll try to dig into this a bit.
A new Cross Of Iron edition could include the japanese commercials Sam did with Coburn while he was promoting the film in Japan...

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Cineriz on 01/25/10 at 5:23pm
I have the StudioCanal version of Cross of Iron which is allegedly in 1:85. No bonuses apart from a photo gallery and filmographies. All very basic and in much need of detail. Better then not having it at all though! Can get the Henstooth 'special edition' for about 16. Very tempted, so is it worth it??? Not sure how it will differ in ratio from the one I have but the audio commentary sounds appealing. What do you think?

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Gachade on 01/25/10 at 6:11pm
I do not have the Henstooth edition. My DVD player doesn't read american DVDs and I can't find a Region 2 or Region free one.
But I really liked Stephen Prince's books, especially the one about violence.

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Cineriz on 01/26/10 at 6:13am
Region 2 available from Amazon uk for 3.98. From Amazon France for about 9. This is the StudioCanal release..........

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Cineriz on 01/26/10 at 6:22am
Now........about ratios and running times...........all varying from 166:1 to 185:1 and 126 mins to 136mins! Is this alternative choice in running times because of the PAL and NTSC system differences?

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by JEFF1950 on 01/26/10 at 1:24pm
Gachade

I have a documentary on Warren Oates called 'Across the Border'  and another on Ben Johnson called 'Fourth Cowboy on the Left' both made by Tom thurman, i have them both on video.

Jeff

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Mike S. on 01/27/10 at 6:42am
THIRD Cowboy on the RIGHT :)

Aspect Ratio STEINER: we screened my 35mm print last saturday during a Peckinpah event. 1:1,66. That's the way the film was composed. Afterwards many mentioned how obvious it was that it was screened in the right format...

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Stanton on 01/28/10 at 2:55pm

Cineriz wrote on 01/26/10 at 6:22am:
Now........about ratios and running times...........all varying from 166:1 to 185:1 and 126 mins to 136mins! Is this alternative choice in running times because of the PAL and NTSC system differences?

You have to add 4 % to the runtime of a Pal DVD. So the 126 min version would be 131 min on a NTSC disc or in a cinema.

128/133 min should be uncut. I have never heard of a 136 min version.

As for Convoy the German from Kinowelt is uncut, and was often called as the best release of this underrated gem.

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by The Dude on 02/17/10 at 1:08pm

Gashade wrote on 01/24/10 at 3:56pm:
Does anyone have a good edition of China 9, Liberty 37?


It came out in Italy like a year ago, but since the company who released it (Hobby & Work in their "Spaghetti Western Collection") is kind of strange cause for some reason their DVDs are not available in most Italian online shops (they are actually sold, like many other DVD in Italy, at the newspaper stands, but even those don't have it always) and it's hard to find any concrete information about them.
But I heard that the master they used is pretty good. It doesn't have english audio either.
If I get a copy, I'll let you know.


Gashade wrote on 01/24/10 at 3:56pm:
I only have The Visitor on VHS...


Again, in Italy it came out on DVD a couple of months ago. I don't have it yet, but I heard the quality is pretty good and it has english audio too.
You can order it here
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Btw, last year we (the mag I write for) made a special issue on the director-producer Assonitis and he told some stories about Sam too. I can translate it if someone is interested.


As I wrote in another topic, I think we should open a topic for every single movie. Otherwise, in the end, we'll have just confusion.

Title: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Gachade on 02/17/10 at 7:05pm
Wow, great! I've just ordered the Stridulum DVD.
What's the name of the magazine? I read italian, so it wouldn't be a problem. I'd gladly check it out.
I thought there was an american edition of China 9, Liberty 37, with and audio commentary by Monte Hellman, but I may be wrong...

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by The Dude on 02/21/10 at 12:08pm

Gashade wrote on 02/17/10 at 7:05pm:
Wow, great! I've just ordered the Stridulum DVD.
What's the name of the magazine? I read italian, so it wouldn't be a problem. I'd gladly check it out.
I thought there was an american edition of China 9, Liberty 37, with and audio commentary by Monte Hellman, but I may be wrong...



The mag is called
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Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Gachade on 02/21/10 at 1:07pm
Thanks! I'm ordering it right now...

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Stanton on 02/21/10 at 3:02pm
I have an uncut English version in 1,78:1 of China 9, but the picture quality is not good.

But there is an excellent English 2,35:1 version from a TV showing meanwhile circling around amongst Spaghetti Western fans.

I'm sure I will get a copy later this year.

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Gachade on 03/01/10 at 2:15pm
Ive just received the Nocturno dossier with the interview with Assonitis (very long and quite interesting). Its not very flattering for Peckinpah... But I guess all he says is true. Its quite similar to the experience Bozzachi had with him on China 9, Liberty 37...

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Mike S. on 03/01/10 at 3:56pm
This here would be the place to post the Peckinpah-related content of this interview. :)

Title: Passion & Poetry DVD
Post by bloodychris on 03/02/10 at 6:29am
I wanted to print a retraction of sorts or at least an apology; a while back I had heard from someone that the 2 disc set was well, alright but not great. I threw that feedback out to guage a reaction and since no-one else commented I thought that was that, then.
This Sunday I was priviledged to see the whole thing and I was wowed by it. Well done, Mike. I enjoyed every minute of it.

Cheers,
Chris

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Gashade on 08/02/11 at 11:37pm
I'm lazy, and the interview with Assonitis is actually very long. But here is the passage about Peckinpah:

"I met him at a party, through a collaborator of mine who was working on the casting [of Stridulum]. He was there with his manager, I don't remember who that was... Peckinpah came to me, completely drunk and stone, and told me: "Are you Italian?"; "Yes"; "Then I want you to give me 10 000 dollars"; "I'll give you 10 000 dollars, if you take a part in my film!". He accepted, but then, on set, it became a tragic situation. He was to shoot for two days and act the small part of a doctor, a gynecologist... he had an extraordinary face, was a very interesting man. As soon as he got there to film, he asked for two things: for one, the costume lady was to take him to buy shoes for the film, and so the costume lady showed him around the city. He had the part of a doctor and the only wardrobe he had was that white shirt and shoes that doctors wear. Instead, he wanted to buy twelve pairs of boots, which absolutely wasn't planned. So the costume lady called me: "Look, this guy wants to buy twelve pairs of boots. What am I supposed to do?"; "Buy him one pair!"; she bought him one and he got upset because he really wanted twelve of them. He said that for all the films that he went to make, he had twelve pairs of boots bought for him. Because he was a cowboy... After that, he called someone from the production and asked for some cocaine. The guy told it to my right-hand man who told it to me: "He wants some cocaine!" "Not only you don't give it to him, but if anyone of you gives him anything, you're fired on the spot!" And so Peckinpah came to me: "Look, in all my contracts, I have this..." and he showed me an old contract of his where it was set that for each working day - it was a directing contract - he would get doses of cocaine. It wasn't called cocaine, another word was used, a conventional word, but that's what it said. I answered him: "We don't do that here..." He started to get a little angry, and then he told me he wanted to change the dialogue in his scene a little. "Bring me your suggestions and we'll talk about it..." Those conversations occured between me and him, without Paradisi, also because Paradisi couldn't speak well in english. As the day we were supposed to be shooting his scene was drawing closer and closer, I would ask him if he had made those changes, so that I could read them, and he would answer: "Tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow..." When I understood I was dealing with a dangerous madman, I told myself: "Now, I have to invite him to dinner, with three or four people from the crew, and most of all with John Huston..." I had warned John: "Look, you have to help me here, because he's making me crazy..." Peckinpah had great respect for John Huston... We went to have dinner, I was inviting everybody, we were five or six people, and towards the end of dinner, I see the waiters coming to us with twelve bottles of champagne, of those at 200 dollars each. "But who ordered those?" I asked; "Oh, mister Sam Peckinpah..."; "Well, we're five people, we'll take one or two of them..." And he was behaving as a kid who just got caught doing some dirty trick... He drank almost all the champagne himself and left with another bottle that had stayed untouched. The day he was supposed to shoot, I had a meeting with Arkoff from AIP who was the American distributor of the film and who had come especially from Los Angeles to watch the material we had shot until that with me. The head of production calls me... the scene was supposed to be shot in a real hospital which, by the way, we had at our disposal only that day... and tells me: "Listen, Peckinpah has closed himself up in his room, he's not coming out... And it' already noon..." In the meantime, two other guys had come from Los Angeles: one was his bodyguard and the other some country singer with his guitar. And they were locked up in that room and you could hear they were singing country songs. He wasn't coming out and would answer to those calling him: "Just one more minute, one more minute!" After which I went to the hotel and I met him as he was coming out of the room, completely wasted. We went to shoot the scene, with the main actress and him. I couldn't hear the lines, but suddenly, I see the American actress burst into tears. What happened there...? Actually, he went out and started telling her very heavy insults, things like: "Give me your cunt, I'll rip it apart, spit on it, stick it in my ear...", he was swearing like that, things that had nothing to do with the lines of the film. And he had offended the actress who was now crying. I told her: "Listen, pretend nothing is happening, say your lines..." The cameraman of the film was Guarnieri, and with him, I decided to frame Peckinpah, as I had to dub him anyway. We had a strong light directed towards him so that the movement of his lips couldn't be seen. At the end of the scene... by the way, his part was initially supposed to be much bigger, I cut it drastically... I looked him straight in the eyes and told him: "I don't think you are the Sam Peckinpah I saw and loved in so many films... You can't be the same person." He looked at me... he was a very tall cowboy... and told me: "Come with me..." I followed him in his dressing room: there was his bodyguard, a guy with a gun laying on the table, and the country singer. He closed the door and told me: "Sit down!"; he sat down in a swinging chair and ordered the singer to sing... That was the end of my relationship with Sam Peckinpah."

I'll try to translate Bozzachi's text some other time.

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by JEFF1950 on 08/09/11 at 11:57am
As a great Peckinpah admirer it was hard to read that, it was such a shame that he became a shadow of what he once was. I would have liked to have met him in his prime when it was only the drink you had to deal with.

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Gashade on 08/09/11 at 11:26pm
And here is what Gianni Bozzacchi writes about the time when he was producing Monte Hellman's China 9, Liberty 37 (taken from Sam Peckinpah - Il ritmo della violenza, edited by Franco La Polla):
"We had to shoot a scene in the hall of a far West hotel: we built it in the studio. I had the idea of calling up famous directors instead of charactor actors: I thought about Sam Peckinpah for the part of the journalist, Sergio Leone for that of the hotel doorman and Federico Fellini for that of a blindman.
After various negociations, Peckinpah accepted to come to Rome with two first class tickets, 2000 dollars daily allowance and accomodation at the Hassler Hotel of the Villa Medici. We were almost out of budget: I made a last attempt, I talked to Fellini who accepted on the condition that Leone would accept too. I called Leone and convinced him with a little stratagem: I told him that Peckinpah's condition was that Leone would be present too.
Peckinpah arrived to Rome. I had met him during the shooting of The Wild Bunch. What a character! I went to meet him in the hotel. The first thing he asked me was if I had some coke: I answered that it was impossible for me to get some, which sent him into a crase of fury. As I was trying to calm him down, he raised my pants asking me where I had bought the boots I was wearing: he wanted a pair. I took him to a shoeshop and bought him two pairs.
I set up a breakfast at the terrace of the Hassler Hotel with Sergio Leone, Monte Hellman, Federico Fellini, Jerry Harvey and the journalist from the Messaggero Costanzo Costantini. We were all sitting around the table waiting for mister Peckinpah to grace us with his presence. He came with a good half-hour delay: he was drunk. He kneeled down in front of Fellini exclaiming: "Maestro! Maestro!" Then he turned to Leone: "Sergio, you are the best!" To which Leone answered: "No, you are the very best!" After having sat down, Peckinpah asked me to translate what he would say and, turning to Leone and Fellini, he asked them what they were thinging of that lousy, cheap producer who made him come to Rome without giving him a penny. I translated word for word. The Californian director went on insisting on the term cheap; I looked him in the eyes, got closer to his ear and, in english, I reminded him that there was a matter with boots going on between us. Suddenly he moved his chair, took off a boot and slammed it in the middle of the table, breaking plates and glasses, and then ran away limping. Everyone looked at me in shock, no one understood what had happened. I made a bitter half smile and, excusing myself, I ran after him and cought up with him in the elevator. I faced up to him, pushing him against the wall, and, in an english more perfect than ever, I reminded him that the reason he was there was that we needed a publicity launch. And so I ordered him to go back and excuse himself, otherwise I would have kicked his behind in front of a dozen paparazzis and send him back to the United States. Peckinpah came back to the table murmuring some half excuses and then went back to his room. Fellini and Leone decided not to play in the scene. The breakfast had cost me a awful lot of money and remained indigestible. The day after, I arrived on the set very angry and ready for everything. Peckinpah was already in his dressing room: he let us wait for four hours before he came down to the set. With great diplomacy from all of us, we succeeded in stealing the scene from him."

But it seems that Leone came on set that day, as there is this photograph of him with Hellman, Peckinpah and cameraman Giuseppe Rotunno (who was a Fellini regular, and also worked with the likes of Visconti, Bob Fosse, Terry Gilliam, Dario Argento...):
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Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Starblack on 09/01/11 at 6:27am
Sad indeed to read further evidence of a great artist's inexorable decline.

I wonder how much impact Peckinpah's behaviour at that breakfast had on the decision by Leone and Fellini not to appear in China 9?

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Stanton on 02/06/16 at 5:05am
There is a Spanish DVD of Junior Bonner:
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Of course with English audio and maybe/most likely in anamorphic 2,35:1

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by mike bishop on 02/06/16 at 6:39am
Forget about the BONNER DVD from Spain, guys. I made the mistake wasting my money. It IS anamorphic, but much worse than the 4:3 US DVD!

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Novecento on 02/06/16 at 1:57pm

Gashade wrote on 08/09/11 at 11:26pm:

Quote:
Fellini and Leone decided not to play in the scene...


But it seems that Leone came on set that day, as there is this photograph of him with Hellman, Peckinpah and cameraman Giuseppe Rotunno (who was a Fellini regular, and also worked with the likes of Visconti, Bob Fosse, Terry Gilliam, Dario Argento...):


Yes - I'm not sure how much faith I would put in the story about Leone and Fellini deciding not to provide cameos as a result of Peckinpah's antics. Leone was clearly uncomfortable about appearing in front of the camera. For Robert Hossein's "Cemetery without Crosses", he was apparently supposed to play a small cameo as a hotel clerk but then declined to do so (the role went to Cris Huerta). Instead he actually directed a scene (the dinner one) which is of course way more exciting to see than a cameo.

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by mike bishop on 02/06/16 at 2:53pm
I was just in contact with Monte and he says Jerry Harvey had the idea to cast Sam. Considering Jerry (Z-Channel) 's love for Sam that makes total sense.
I love Italy but my experience with many of the people who worked in the 60s/70s is that they LOVE to take credit...

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Stanton on 02/07/16 at 4:06am

mike bishop wrote on 02/06/16 at 6:39am:
Forget about the BONNER DVD from Spain, guys. I made the mistake wasting my money. It IS anamorphic, but much worse than the 4:3 US DVD!


Ok, thanks for the warning.

What's wrong? Bad picture quality? A cut version?

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by mike bishop on 02/07/16 at 4:49am
BONNER Spanish DVD: Bad picture. Looks like a bootleg of the Pioneer WideScreen LaserDisc. Or something.  AVOID. Someday Disney will release the film or license the rights for a reasonable price. Hopefully.

CHINA 9: Monte just told me that Leone wasn't there to discuss a possible cameo, he was there just for a visit. The "boot" event during breakfast took place, but neither Fellini nor Leone were present!

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Gashade on 02/07/16 at 10:49am

mike bishop wrote on 02/07/16 at 4:49am:
CHINA 9: Monte just told me that Leone wasn't there to discuss a possible cameo, he was there just for a visit. The "boot" event during breakfast took place, but neither Fellini nor Leone were present!

Great info. Thanks!

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Novecento on 02/07/16 at 11:38am

Gashade wrote on 02/07/16 at 10:49am:
Great info. Thanks!


Yes - this is the sort of info that makes these forums really worthwhile. Thanks Mike.

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Gashade on 10/04/16 at 5:54pm
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Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Gashade on 03/10/17 at 5:35pm
Alfredo Garcia is out on BR from Arrow films. Looks pretty good!
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Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by stepeanut on 05/01/17 at 2:39am
Not seen mention here of Shout Factory's DVD release of The Westerner. It's been out in the U.S. for a couple of months, as a Walmart exclusive, but it receives a wide release this month:

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Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Stanton on 05/01/17 at 4:01am
Great, I always hoped for this to be released.

Does it have subtitles? It seems not.

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Novecento on 05/01/17 at 8:56pm
I'd heard a rumor about that coming out. Glad to see that it materialized. I've actually never seen any of the episodes so will be interested in checking it out.

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Stanton on 05/02/17 at 7:12am
Several are surprisingly good, some are even great.

Title: Re: Peckinpah DVDs
Post by Gashade on 05/03/17 at 12:16pm
Fantastic news! I love the whole show!

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