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Message started by Gachade on 02/17/10 at 7:33pm

Title: Peckinpah books
Post by Gachade on 02/17/10 at 7:33pm
I agree that one post for each film would be good.
In the mean time, here's another long post with a list of books about Peckinpah. I remember the time when we were discussing how there were not enough books, DVDs or documentaries about Peckinpah on the old forum, and although things are not perfect (nothing is, in life), I realise a lot has been done in the last years.

Anyway, I may have forgotten some things. There is no particular order, more just how it went in the order I found in my library. Sorry about the different sizes of the pictures.


Garner Simmons – Peckinpah, A Portrait In Montage
University Of Texas Press, USA, 1982
One the basic books on Peckinpah, a personal and insightful account of the author’s relationship with Peckinpah, through a close look at the making of his films, up until Convoy. (Has been translated in Spanish and Japanese.)
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David Weddle – If They Move... Kill ‘Em
Grove Press, USA, 1994
The one and only good biography about Peckinpah.
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Paul Seydor – Peckinpah, The Western Films, A Reconsideration
University Of Illinois Press, USA, 1980
One of the best books there is. Excellent overview of the historic, artistic and literary context of Peckinpah’s films.
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Stephen Prince – Savage Cinema, Sam Peckinpah And The Rise Of Ultraviolent Movies
University Of Texas Press, USA, 1998
Excellent book about the violence in Peckinpah’s films, and the misconception people have about « Bloody » Sam. Quite opened my eyes on how to look at Straw Dogs.
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Mike Siegel – Passion And Poetry
Schwarzkopf Und Schwarzkopf, Germany, 2003
I’m too lazy to read in German – forgive me, Mike. Anyway, this book is THE best picture book on Peckinpah, with an incredibly high amount of pictures, photographs from the films and the sets, posters and other memorabilia – and a lot of it in colour.
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Max Evans – Sam Peckinpah, Master Of Violence
Dakota Press, USA, 1972
Very precious acount of the making of The Ballad Of Cable Hogue, written by great writer 5he had a bit part in the film as one the coach drivers).
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Michael Bliss – Justified Lives, Morality And Narrative In The Films Of Sam Peckinpah
Southern Illinois Universioty Press, USA, 1993
Very interesting analysis of Peckinpah’s work, film by film, with great attention given to the caracters and their interaction.
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Michael Bliss – Doing It Right
Southern Illinois University Press, USA, 1994
A very good collection of essays on The Wild Bunch reprinted from various newspapers, including a text by Paul Schrader.
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Stephen Prince – Sam Peckinpah’s The Wild Bunch
Cambridge University Press, UK, 1999
Probably the most interesting book on The Wild Bunch. Includes an analytic comparison by Paul Seydor of the film with its script which shows how Peckinpah used to work once he was on set.
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Franco La Polla – Sam Peckinpah, Il Ritmo Della Violenza
Cineteca Bologna, Le Mani, Italy, 2006
Excellent collection of essays. Those which have struck me most is one about the scores of Peckinpah’s films and another one about a meeting Peckinpah had with Monte Hellman, Federico Fellini and Sergio Leone during preproduction of China 9, Liberty 37.
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Gerard Camy – Sam Peckinpah, Un realisateur dans le systeme hollywoodien des annees soixante et soixante-dix
L’Harmattan, France, 1997
Rather good book about the man and the films, with insightful analysis.
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Bill Mesce JR – Peckinpah’s Women
The Scarecorw Press, USA, 2001
Very interesting look on Peckinpah’s portrayal of women in his Westerns. Precious putting in context with the historic reality of the the life of women in USA in the 19th century.
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Francois Causse – Sam Peckinpah, La Violence du Crepuscule
Dreamland, France, 2001
Very good film by film analysis, with bits of biographic and contextual historic and cinematographic information, and a lot of colour pictures.
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Jim Kitses – Horizon West
Indiana University Press, USA, 1970
One of the very first books on Peckinpah (and Anthony Mann and Budd Boetticher), insightful (even if it stops with The Wild Bunch).
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Doug McKinney – Sam Peckinpah
Twayne Publishers, USA, 1979
Very insightful film by film analysis, with biographic elements (up until Convoy).

Terence Butler – Crucified Heroes
Gordon Fraser, UK, 1979
Interesting film by film analysis.

Jean-Francois Fourny – Samuel Peckinpah, Du Vieil Ouest A l’Etat De Securite Nationale
Seguier, France, 2009
Quite interesting study of the historic and political context with which Peckinpah’s films deal with, and in which they were made.
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Electronic Drama, Television Plays Of The Sixties
Beacon Press, USA, 1971
Contains Peckinpah’s script of Noon Wine
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Jeff Slater – Entered His House Justified
Booksurge, USA, 2006
Jeff Slater has one of the greatest collections of Peckinpah memorabilia, including several medals Peckinpah used to give to the members of the crew who « survived » the shooting of his films. His book is, to me, a good companion to Weddle’s biography (as it has a lot of new pieces of information) and Mike Siegel’s german picture book (as it has a lot of new pictures – although only in black and white).
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Fabrice Revault - La Horde sauvage de Sam Peckinpah
Yellow Now, Belgium, 2007
Analysis of The Wild Bunch. Small book, written in an unbearably academic style, but with interesting ideas, especially a comparison with Nietzsche’ notion of tragic optimism.
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Sumiyo Toyama – Sam Peckinpah
Exquire Magazine, Japan, 2001
Interesting collection of essays by Japanese authors (including analysis of his television work, as well as a strange text about peckinpah’s women – not his porptrayal of women, but the women that counted in his life), with translations of Peckinpah interviews, and texts by Lucien Ballard, Stirling Silliphant... and an interview with Warren Oates. Contains reproductions of nice japanese posters and programs.

Marshall Fine – Bloody Sam
Donald I. Fine, USA, 1991
The worse of Peckinpah’s two biographies. Nevertheless, while being more sensationalist and uselessly dwelling in Peckinpah’s exesses, it still contains various interesting bits of information for someone who would like to go deeper than what’s in David Weddle’s biography.
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Sam Peckinpah Interviews
University Press Of Mississippi-Jackson, USA, 2008
I guess many Peckinpah fans will have many of these interviews in the original magazines where they have been published, but it still is a nice collection of interviews ranging from 1963 to 1982.
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Susan Compo – Warren Oates, A Wild Life
The University Press Of Kentucky, USA, 2009
Personnally, I ‘ve been a little bit disapointed by this biography, as I’ve had the impression that I’ve learned about a lot of people and place with whom and where Oates liked to hang out, mut not so much about the man himself. But... it is - and chances are it will long remain – the only book about this great actor.
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Jon Tuska – Close-Up
The Scarecrow Press, USA, 1981
Only a little more than 30 pages are dedicated to Peckinpah, but with an inteligent synthesis of his films and themes.

Will Wright – Six Guns And Society
University of California Press, USA, 1975
Studies Peckinpah’s films from a sociologic point of view.
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Rudolph Wurlitzer – Pat Garrett And Billy The Kid
The New American Library, USA, 1973
Original script.
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Umberto Mosca – Sam Peckinpah, Il Mucchio Selvaggio
Lindau Film, Italy, 1997
Frame by frame analysis of The Wild Bunch.

Bernard F. Dukore – Sam Peckinpah’s Films
University Of Illinois Press, USA, 1999
Decent book on the man and the films.
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Neil Fulwood – The Films Of Sam Peckinpah
B T Batsford, UK, 2002
Decent film by film analysis. Wouldn’t recommend it as a first choice as I found it a little bit less interesting.
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Valerio Caprara – Sam Peckinpah
Il Castoro, Italy, 1997
Basic information on the man and his films.

Leonard Engel – Sam Peckinpah’s West
The University Of Utah Press, USA, 2003
I found this one a little bit academic, dwelling in theoretical ideas...
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Richard Luck – Sam Peckinpah
Pocket Essentials, UK, 2000
Very short and not very exciting film by film account. Gave me the impression that the author deosn’t really like Peckinpah (then, why write a book about him ?).
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D. Harlan Wilson – Sam Peckinpah, An Ultraviolent Romance
Shroud Publishing, USA, 2009
Has nothing to do with Peckinpah.
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And here are some more that I haven't read:
Francisco Javier Urkijo – Sam Peckinpah
Catedra, Spain, 1995
In spanish. Has a picture from The Ballad Of Cable Hogue on the cover, which could be a good sign.

Frank Arnold, Ulrich von Berg – Sam Peckinpah, Ein Outlaw In Hollywood
Populare Kultur, Germany, 1987
Maybe Mike could tell us what’s this book like...

Carlos F. Heredero – Sam Peckinpah
JC, Spain, 1982
In Spanish, haven’t read it, but looks rather interesting...

Gabrielle Murray - This Wounded Cinema, This Wounded Life: Violence and Utopia in the Films of Sam Peckinpah
Praeger Publishers, USA, 2004
Is a bit expensive, haven’t got around to buying it yet. But I have a bad feeling about it: Straw dogs seems to be only briefly mentioned in a foot note…

Leonardo Garcia Tsao – Sam Peckinpah
Universidad de Guadalajara, Mexico, 1990
Haven’t got this one. It is part of a series about great directors. I'm not sure if it is very personal as the same author has also written the books about Truffaut, Tarkovski and Welles, all great directors, but with quite different styles...

Max Evans – Hi Lo To Hollywood
Texas Tech University Press, USA, 1998
Haven’t got this one yet, but I hear it has all the articles Evans has written about Peckinpah and the movie business in general.
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Cordell Strug – Lament Of An Audience On The Death Of An Artist
Ytterli Press, USA, 2008
I have just ordered this one, it’s looking rather good.
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Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by The Dude on 02/21/10 at 12:15pm
Great and very helpful topic.
Maybe we could insert the covers too ...

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by JEFF1950 on 02/21/10 at 3:21pm
Gachade . you can add another book to that list. Max Evans 'Super Bull & Other True Escapades' the 1st chapter of 20 odd pages is on sam and is entitled 'A Very Personal Rememberance' published by the University of New Mexico Press 1986

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gachade on 02/21/10 at 11:24pm
Isn't it the same text as in Hi Lo To Hollywood (which is a selection of various texts taken from various books and sources)?

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by JEFF1950 on 02/22/10 at 12:11pm
I don't know, I don't have 'Hi Lo To Hollywood' so I can't compare.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gachade on 03/07/10 at 4:58pm
I've just read Cordell Strug's Lament Of An Audience On The Death Of An Artist. It's a nice book, but quite short and without much new information. To my oponion, he values too much Sam' last films.
But his views on The Getaway are very interesting though: he considers a purely commercial film (which it is) and says it is Sam's first big failure, artistically speaking (which it is, too, of course) despite the tecnical virtuosity and how enjoyable the film still is.
His point is that the times in wich Peckinpah was living had changed by then. and that his alienation from modern life had grown faster than his ability to expressit.
Basically, according to Strug, Peckinpah's last films are not about an artist probing alienation, but about an artist being alienated, which is a very good point, I think.

And yes: Hi Lo to Hollywood and Superbull contain pretty much the same texts, except Hi Lo to Hollywood has more of them.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gachade on 03/17/10 at 10:39pm
I've just checked - Super Bull actually only contains one text about Peckinpah. Hi Lo to Hollywood contains the same text, but contains various other texts with stories about Peckinpah.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Mike S. on 03/18/10 at 6:41am
Very good work with that list!
There are two or three I don't have (yet :)).

I'll soon find the time to check my archive and
see what I'll find.

For ex. there is

JUMP CUT! Memoirs a pioneer television editor
by Arthur Schneider (USA 1997)
(he did NOON WINE with Sam, 1 - 2 pages)

BOB PECKINPAH's GOOD COOKING & HAIR RAISIN' STORIES
(Fresno 1999, recepies & stories. Nothing on Sam as I recall,
but great family pictures of the early days of the Peckinpahs)

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 05/04/10 at 11:31am
Two more titles :
Ernest Borgnine's autobiography, with various titles : My Autobiography, Call me Ernie - and the best one : I don't want to set the world on fire, I just want to keep my nuts warm.
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And a book that just came out : C. Courtney Joyner, The Westerners - Interviews with actors, directors, writers and producers, McFarland and Co, Inc - with an interview with Warren Oates.
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Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by The Dude on 05/09/10 at 10:19am

Gashade wrote on 05/04/10 at 11:31am:
Two more titles :
Ernest Borgnine's autobiography, with various titles : My Autobiography, Call me Ernie - and the best one : I don't want to set the world on fire, I just want to keep my nuts warm.


The last one is one of the greatest titles i've ever heard. Genius.  ;D

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 06/12/10 at 6:17pm
I've just come back from Prague where I've discovered a new book that newly came out in Czech: Sam Peckinpah a jeho filmy (Sam Peckinpah and his films) by Zdenek Hudec, Casablanca editions, 2010.
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I haven't finished it yet but it is a rather interesting analysis of the themes present in Peckinpah's films. Strangely, Hudec seems to have a liking in Ardrey's works and links some of Peckinpah's films or themes to them. Photos are only in black and white, but always nicely chosen to better explain the point of the analysis.

Jan Triska, a Czech actor who was a big star in Czechoslovakia in the sixties (he has then emigrated to the USA, before coming back to Czech republic after the fall of communism), appears in The Osterman Weekend : he plays the "Russian agent" Tanner is led to beleive his friends are in contact with. He also appears as one of Fassett's henchmen by the pool.
I've always thought it would be interesting (although probably mostly for Czech fans only) to do an interview with him about his experience on this film but never got round to do it.
Apparently, Hudec has contacted him and Triska has sent him a letter which I am translating here:

Dear Mr Hudec,
Sam Peckinpah was (and of course is to this day) legendary in Hollywood: a very colourful figure. During the shooting of The Osterman Weekend, I have witnessed him battle with two strong producers - (with whom I have worked again several times afterwards) who in the end took the right of the final cut from him. I loved Sam and admired him. I think even he found a liking in me. I have surprised myself several times staring at him, feeling as though he reminded me of someone. Someone I had known well but who was not among us anymore...
To my amazement and consternation, I've then found out Sam Peckinpah was reminding me of - my own deceased father.
A very strange feeling...
I wish you the best of luck.
Jan Triska, 20.8.2007

Title: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 07/14/10 at 1:23am
Two titles I've forgotten, indirectly linked to Sam:
Ali McGraw's autobiography entitled Moving Pictures (with very few information about Sam), and Kris Kristofferson's biography by Stephen Miller, entitled Kristofferson - The Wild American.

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Title: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 07/14/10 at 1:45am
Several more titles - which I haven't read yet:
Ruben Lardin - Sam Peckinpah - Hermano Perro, Midons editions, Valencia, 1998
Giancarlo Chiariglione - Il Cinema di Sam Peckinpah, L'Harmattan Italia, 2007
Christopehr Sharrett - The Rifleman, Wayne State University Press, 2005 (I understand it is rather thin and short)

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Title: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 02/06/11 at 7:21pm
And here comes a new one which looks pretty interesting :

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Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 02/07/12 at 1:14am
And two new ones:

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Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 03/19/12 at 10:39pm
Watch out: the Stratton book is actually a collection of poetry. I haven't read it yet, but if you are looking for factual information or analysis, this one probably won't bring you any.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Nate B. on 03/21/12 at 5:30pm

Gashade wrote on 03/19/12 at 10:39pm:
Watch out: the Stratton book is actually a collection of poetry. I haven't read it yet, but if you are looking for factual information or analysis, this one probably won't bring you any.


Thanks for the heads up!

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 11/26/12 at 5:40pm
And a (not so) new one I forgot to include :
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Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Sergej on 07/11/13 at 4:29am
excellent topic! thanks to all contributors

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 07/14/13 at 10:53pm
There used to be a whole topic about Stevie Simkin's book on Straw dogs, but it seems to have disappeared during the pirates' invasion of the forum. So for the sake of completness, there it is again:
Stevie Simkin - Straw Dogs (Controversies), Palgrave Macmillan, 2011
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Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Novecento on 07/31/13 at 9:16pm
I've recently been reading "Selected Takes: Film Editors on Editing". One of the interviews is with Lou Lombardo and a good chunk is focused on his pioneering work on the Wild Bunch with Peckinpah.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 08/04/13 at 9:52am
Thanks for the info!

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by The Dude on 08/06/13 at 9:55pm
I would love to read the interview with Lombardo

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Stanton on 08/18/13 at 2:40pm
Very interesting indeed.

I just bought it.

Looking forward to it also for the rest of the book, and maybe some insights in the editing process.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Robert Blenheim on 03/23/14 at 3:17pm

I just finished reading Ian Cooper's book on "Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia" and, although the author is not particularly known as a Peckinpah expert, it is a really wonderful book about this film, and expresses an honest remembrance of how he went from a dislike of the film to loving it.  In fact, I found his 'journey' mirrors my own.  His take on this film is really worth reading!  I really think he nails this film.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 03/23/14 at 6:22pm
This is quite subjective but, as I fell in love with Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia immediately, those passages where the author is describing how he gradually came to like the film were a bit disappointing to me. I fell there's more to be said about it than what the book offers - for instance on how it's best viewed on several levels (literal, metaphorical, absurd, existential...).
I'd love to hear Monte Hellman talk about the film as its feels to me like Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia is, on a more visceral level, Peckinpah's film that most resembles Hellman's sensibility.
But on the other hand, it's such an unusual film with moments that can so easily repulse many people that I'm quite glad that there's at least this one book dedicated only to it...

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Robert Blenheim on 03/23/14 at 8:26pm

Gashade wrote on 03/23/14 at 6:22pm:
This is quite subjective but, as I fell in love with Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia immediately, those passages where the author is describing how he gradually came to like the film were a bit disappointing to me. ...


Yes, it IS subjective.  And I have to confess that I shared the author's experience and was disappointed on the first viewing.  It was so unlike Peckinpah's other films, at times clumsy and sleazy.  Today it's what makes it special, and why so many like myself admire it.

Also, many people have shared my view (and the author's) as to it being a film one later learned to love.  I've heard others say the same thing.  It's kind of a common view, at least when the film came out.    When you first saw it, was it when it first came out?   Had I seen it for the first time a few years ago I think I'd have had no trouble seeing its greatness (especially because the critical view has changed), but not when it came out.

And why did you find this disappointing in the book, Gashade?  Even if you loved the film from the first time you saw it (as I have for decades now), it's a wonderful case for how someone with some critical faculties can 'come around' and why.  To me it's one of the admirable things in the book.  Why would it have been non-'disappointing' if he had loved it from the first viewing?  The fact he didn't actually like it at first helps articulate how the film can be broken down and appreciated.

PS: Two main things bothered me the most when I first saw it, and today still haven't been things I accept completely: 1) The violence in the early sections (NOT the last section!) sometimes lacks his usual intensity and seems sometimes Peckinpah 'doing his thing' without really feeling it, and 2) The way the rape sequence with Kristofferson is confusingly dragged out and how it develops inconsistently as far as what it's trying to say.    Incidentally, the second point is discussed in some detail in the 'second commentary' on the Blu-ray.  A couple of the experts still feel the same way, that it doesn't quite work!

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Richard W on 04/05/14 at 9:26pm
I have an extra copy of Rudolph Wurlitzer's paperback Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid, which contains a script for the film. It's been read and looks used. If anyone wants to buy it or trade for it PM me.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 04/28/14 at 7:02pm
A new book by Max Evans is to come out on October:
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I hope he's not going to be just rehashing what he's already written elsewhere...

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Robert Blenheim on 04/28/14 at 8:59pm
Thanks for the info, Gashade.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by mike bishop on 04/29/14 at 4:07am

Gashade wrote on 04/28/14 at 7:02pm:
I hope he's not going to be just rehashing what he's already written elsewhere...


I don't think so. I was in contact with him over the years and he told me he was writing all the time...

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Stanton on 04/29/14 at 7:57am
Sometimes I think there can't be another director on whom and whose work so much books were written.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by mike bishop on 04/29/14 at 2:18pm
He makes the Top 5, I'm sure :)
I have about 40 or 45 books on him.

Kubrick is strong too, Hitchcock is probably leading..

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Stanton on 04/29/14 at 2:34pm
Surely Hitchcock.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 05/11/14 at 10:22pm
And while we're at Max Evans...:
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Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 05/21/14 at 7:42pm
In my first post here, about the various books on Peckinpah, I mentionned Jon Tuska's Close Up. I realise now that I forgot to say that the passages on Peckinpah are in the volume called The Contemporary Director - as Close Up has two other volumes.
And while I'm at it, Tuska also writes about Peckinpah in his books The Filming of the West, and The American West in film.
Another book that has good passages about Peckinpah is Edward Buscombe's BFI Companion to the Western.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Sean Mallory on 08/07/14 at 4:15am
Is there anyone who has this book and knows how to get it?

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It seems very interesting, but it seems also impossible to find (oh, and I've seen it for sale at exorbitant prices)...

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by mike bishop on 08/07/14 at 5:37am
Ask JEFF1950 here in the forum - he is the author :)

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Stanton on 08/07/14 at 7:49am
But is Jeff objective? ;)

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Post by mike bishop on 08/07/14 at 10:15am
I'm not objective, that's for sure. We are friends for 19 years now...
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Post by Novecento on 08/07/14 at 10:22am
Nice photo!

Jeff - any chance you could hook us up at a decent price? Would love to read it too.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Sean Mallory on 08/07/14 at 11:08am

Novecento wrote on 08/07/14 at 10:22am:
Jeff - any chance you could hook us up at a decent price? Would love to read it too.


I have the same desire. 
Can you help us, Jeff? :)

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by JEFF1950 on 08/07/14 at 6:28pm
Hi you guy's.  Sean & Novecento

I'm currently trying to get my book back in stock for sale, I've had publisher problems, so they should be resolved soon.

When I first got it published, the publisher set the price, not me, if it was up to me it would have been a lot less.

Max Evans's new book is out in September, and he told me personaly, that mine was the best book he had read on Sam, I don't think he would bull shit me. I am honored that he thinks that. My personal favorite book on Sam is Garner Simmons.

The price of my book on the secondary market shocks me too. Don't pay it.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Novecento on 08/07/14 at 8:39pm
Thanks Jeff. Hope you get it back in print soon.

So now I have your book, Mike's revamped Japanese version of Passion and Poetry, Paul Seydor's book on Pat Garrett, and Max Evans' new book to look forward to! Wow - that's quite a bunch!

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Robert Blenheim on 08/07/14 at 8:59pm

Sean Mallory wrote on 08/07/14 at 4:15am:
Is there anyone who has this book and knows how to get it?

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It seems very interesting, but it seems also impossible to find (oh, and I've seen it for sale at exorbitant prices)...


This is also a must-have for my library, as well.

Jeff, it NEEDS to get back in print!!!  Please let us know its status.   Thanks!

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by JEFF1950 on 08/08/14 at 3:54am
Robert

Once I get some news on it, I'll post it here.

I've tried to get a updated version of my book, with extra interviews and stills, but you wouldn't believe the work involved.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Robert Blenheim on 08/08/14 at 7:18pm
I believe it.   And, Jeff, your book is the only major book on Peckinpah I don't have in my large collection.  (And I also have virtually all minor ones.)

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by JEFF1950 on 08/08/14 at 8:13pm
Well Robert. I'll have to make your collection complete then.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 08/08/14 at 9:08pm
The stills in it are amazing! I'm quite glad I bought when it first came out.
I thought it deserved a better paper than the one chosen by the editor. Not that the reproduction would be bad by any means - just that if you manage to get it out again on a slightly better paper, I'll seriously consider buying it again whatever the price...

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Novecento on 08/09/14 at 8:29am

Robert Blenheim wrote on 08/08/14 at 7:18pm:
I believe it.   And, Jeff, your book is the only major book on Peckinpah I don't have in my large collection.  (And I also have virtually all minor ones.)


English language only?

I'd love to hear people's recommendations for the best non-English publications

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 08/09/14 at 2:45pm

Quote:
English language only?
I'd love to hear people's recommendations for the best non-English publications


To me, Francois Causse's "Sam Peckinpah" is a very good way to go. "Il ritmo della violenza" edited by Franco La Polla is pretty good too (it's a collection of essays - not necessarily for someone who doesn't know Peckinpah). Gerard Camy's book was not bad, as far as I can remember. I don't read German too well, but Mike's book "Passion and poetry" has great stills. I don't read Spanish too well either, so I can't really comment on the books in Spanish. And the book by Hudec, in Czech, wasn't bad but I tend to disagree with his faithfulness to what Peckinpah may have said about his own work (in the Playboy interview for instance etc.).
Anyway most (if not almost all) of them are listed earlier in this topic.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by mike bishop on 08/11/14 at 4:01am
I took some reference pictures of most of my Sam-books, minus all the books on the actors, on McQueen alone I have 30 books..
Maybe you find one or two you haven't seen before...

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Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Robert Blenheim on 08/11/14 at 9:35pm

JEFF1950 wrote on 08/08/14 at 8:13pm:
Well Robert. I'll have to make your collection complete then.


Yes, you do!    I can't wait to read it.

By the way, my favorite book on Sam's films is Paul Seydor's.  It is impeccably written by a man who knows the English language as much as he knows Peckinpah's cinema. 

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Robert Blenheim on 08/11/14 at 9:38pm

mike bishop wrote on 08/11/14 at 4:01am:
I took some reference pictures of most of my Sam-books, minus all the books on the actors, on McQueen alone I have 30 books..
Maybe you find one or two you haven't seen before...


I have virtually all the English language books on Peckinpah shown (and Mike's great German tome!), but not most of the 'novelizations'. 

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Nate B. on 08/12/14 at 4:47pm

mike bishop wrote on 08/11/14 at 4:01am:
I took some reference pictures of most of my Sam-books, minus all the books on the actors, on McQueen alone I have 30 books..
Maybe you find one or two you haven't seen before...


Mike, that is just a great, great set of photos to see!!!

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Nate B. on 08/12/14 at 4:48pm

Robert Blenheim wrote on 08/11/14 at 9:35pm:

JEFF1950 wrote on 08/08/14 at 8:13pm:
Well Robert. I'll have to make your collection complete then.


Yes, you do!    I can't wait to read it.



Ditto!!

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Novecento on 08/12/14 at 8:52pm

Gashade wrote on 08/09/14 at 2:45pm:
To me, Francois Causse's "Sam Peckinpah" is a very good way to go...


I might check this one out. However I'll probably wait until later in the year when Hossein's "Toi le venin" is released on BD so I can save on shipping from amazon.fr


mike bishop wrote on 08/11/14 at 4:01am:
I took some reference pictures of most of my Sam-books, minus all the books on the actors, on McQueen alone I have 30 books..
Maybe you find one or two you haven't seen before...


Thanks! Out of curiosity, what inspired you to buy the Japanese translation of Max Evans' "Master of Violence"?

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by mike bishop on 08/13/14 at 3:37am
I didn't buy it. It was shipped to me by the guy who wants to release
some of my films (and maybe my updated book) in Japan.
He's a great guy, used to ran a company named CABLE HOGUE Co Ltd.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Glory Guy on 08/14/14 at 5:57pm
Hi,

Don't know if this has been posted yet, but there is a new Peckinpah book coming out in October by Robert Nott, as dictated to him by noted New Mexico based author, Max Evans. 

This book will be about Evans' experiences as Sam's friend over the years and is quite lively and informative.

Here is a link to UNM Press w/ more information.

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Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Novecento on 08/14/14 at 10:47pm

mike bishop wrote on 08/13/14 at 3:37am:
I didn't buy it. It was shipped to me by the guy who wants to release
some of my films (and maybe my updated book) in Japan.
He's a great guy, used to ran a company named CABLE HOGUE Co Ltd.


Is this the same company that was mentioned a while back on a separate thread here?

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[quote author=6C47445952746C5E522B0 link=1266453205/58#58 date=1408053458]Hi,

Don't know if this has been posted yet, but there is a new Peckinpah book coming out in October by Robert Nott, as dictated to him by noted New Mexico based author, Max Evans. 

This book will be about Evans' experiences as Sam's friend over the years and is quite lively and informative.

Here is a link to UNM Press w/ more information.

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Thanks for posting. Yes, I believe that's the same book Jeff mentioned a few pages back on this thread.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 08/15/14 at 6:32am

mike bishop wrote on 08/11/14 at 4:01am:
I took some reference pictures of most of my Sam-books, minus all the books on the actors, on McQueen alone I have 30 books..
Maybe you find one or two you haven't seen before...


I've uploaded some photos of books on my Flickr page:
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Sorry, I didn't take the time to select only those that Mike didn't include in his pictures. Many of them are the same, or just in different editions. But some are different.
And I've thrown some books on Monte Hellman in too.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Nate B. on 08/18/14 at 10:46am
Nice!!

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by mike bishop on 09/01/14 at 7:28pm
What a great cover photo Max! Ten thumbs up :)

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Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Nate B. on 09/10/14 at 1:56pm
Very cool!! Pre-ordered!

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Novecento on 09/11/14 at 9:57pm
The cover for the new Paul Seydor book on PG&BTK has been uploaded:

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Post by Nate B. on 09/12/14 at 10:28am
Sweet! Also pre-ordered! I'm psyched about what feels to me like a wave of Peckinpah books and Blu-rays that has been rising.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Novecento on 11/05/14 at 10:23am
Did anyone get a copy of this yet?

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Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by stepeanut on 11/05/14 at 3:25pm

Novecento wrote on 11/05/14 at 10:23am:
Did anyone get a copy of this yet?

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It appears to have been delayed by a few weeks.  Amazon UK are now estimating delivery as 24-26/11/14.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Novecento on 11/05/14 at 4:10pm
It's in stock on the amazon US site. I'm planning on buying closer to the holidays for some nice holiday reading, but was just curious if anyone had any thoughts yet.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 11/05/14 at 7:38pm
Got it a few days ago but have not had the time to really dwelve into yet. Anyway, it looks great - all new material.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by mike bishop on 11/06/14 at 6:28am
Yeah it is quite entertaining :). A time machine really. Nice to read about Brian Keith, Lee Marvin..

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 11/09/14 at 6:25pm
Among other things, Max Evans says this:
"I liked [David Weddle's] book [If They Move... Kill 'Em! The Life and Times of Sam Peckinpah] very much, with only one regret: Grove Press had Weddle cut about one hundred pages to make the book more 'manageable'. I felt then, as I do today, that as fine a work as it is, it would have been a true biographical masterpiece if he had been allowed to keep his total vision."
I'd love to be able to read the full version!!!

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Novecento on 11/10/14 at 9:57pm
Yes I have a feeling that happens quite often. If I remember correctly, Frayling mentioned he had to cut his Leone biography down significantly (and it's still huge and very detailed).

Looking forward to reading this now

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Novecento on 12/06/14 at 8:22pm

Novecento wrote on 09/11/14 at 9:57pm:
The cover for the new Paul Seydor book on PG&BTK has been uploaded...


Twilight Time just posted this on their Facebook page:

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Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Stanton on 12/07/14 at 5:54am
Maybe this book will help to originate further work on the film for a future Blu Ray release.

Btw, I just re-read a 1974 interview from the Criterion disc of Straw Dogs, in which Peckinpah says that PG&BtK "is really not mine anymore, but in the midst of all activities, I am busy re-editing it. It will soon be re-distributed in a version whose final editing I will have assumed."

I wish that really had happened, that there is his version somewhere in the vaults of MGM, which time had forgot about.

He should have done that (and re-edit Major Dundee) instead of shooting The Killer Elite.


Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 09/10/15 at 6:55pm
Just for the sake of completness, here's a brief mention of the book edited by Fernando Ganzo for the Locarno/Paris 2015 retrospectives.
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Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 10/31/15 at 1:43pm

JEFF1950 wrote on 08/07/14 at 6:28pm:
Hi you guy's.  Sean & Novecento

Any news about a new edition of your book, Jeff?

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 10/31/15 at 1:44pm

Gashade wrote on 03/23/14 at 6:22pm:
This is quite subjective but, as I fell in love with Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia immediately, those passages where the author is describing how he gradually came to like the film were a bit disappointing to me. I fell there's more to be said about it than what the book offers - for instance on how it's best viewed on several levels (literal, metaphorical, absurd, existential...).
I'd love to hear Monte Hellman talk about the film as its feels to me like Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia is, on a more visceral level, Peckinpah's film that most resembles Hellman's sensibility.
But on the other hand, it's such an unusual film with moments that can so easily repulse many people that I'm quite glad that there's at least this one book dedicated only to it...


Anyone feels, like me, that Alfredo Garcia is Peckinpah's most Bunuel-like film?

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by mike bishop on 10/31/15 at 4:51pm
Oh absolutely. You go down to Mexico and make a film outside
of the Hollywood system, the overall mood changes dramatically - on top of the film's subject.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 08/20/16 at 11:23pm
A new French magazine has publisehd an interview with Lupita Pekcinpah (and a lowsy article about Sam). But frankly, I'm stating it here just for the sake of completeness, as none of it is really of interest...
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Post by Novecento on 08/27/16 at 12:47pm
Thanks for sharing. Is the interview any good?

It looks like there is also an interview with Monte Hellman.

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 08/27/16 at 3:46pm
Frankly, as much as I was excited by the selection of topics, I found the whole magazine to be lacking, and quite disappointing in the end. Generic questions, generic answers, critiques that only repeat what's been said elsewhere, with a lot of pseudointellectual sauce around it.
But that's just me...

Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Gashade on 08/17/18 at 12:44pm
Two new books: we already mentionned elsewhere Junior Bonner: The Making of a Classic with Steve McQueen and Sam Peckinpah in the Summer of 1971 by Jeb Rosebrook - a great addition.
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And then, there's this, announced for February 2019: The Wild Bunch: Sam Peckinpah, a Revolution in Hollywood, and the Making of a Legendary Film by W. K. Stratton
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Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Sean Mallory on 09/11/18 at 8:27am
Wow! Italian edition of If They Move... Kill 'Em! by David Weddle

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Title: Re: Peckinpah books
Post by Novecento on 09/17/18 at 12:04pm
Looks like I have some reading to do (although I'll skip the Italian version of Weddle - not that it doesn't absolutely merit a translation). I actually ended up with a signed copy of Weddle's book when I bought it. I had no idea until one day I noticed his signature on the inside of it.

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