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Message started by Gashade on 04/10/15 at 10:45pm

Title: Films on the big screen
Post by Gashade on 04/10/15 at 10:45pm
At one point, in his Authentic death and contentious afterlife... Seydor remarks on how the way we see films influence our perception - a remark which, as evident and almost trivial as it seems, is still essential, of course.
I was a bit surprised to read that, when at home, many people watch films with interruptions for comments, conversation or refreshments, that they replay selected scenes, fast forward and skip others... But I'm not naive to the point of disbeleiving this. Not everyone is a fanatic like me who scolds anyone who but merely peeps during a film, and who almost prefers watching films alone, when at home, not to be disrupted.
No need to say that the best way to see a film is with an audience in a theater, and I'm pretty lucky to have had the opportunity to see almost all of Sam's films that way.

Which gives me the idea that it might be fun to run a little survey to see how many of Sam's films we have actually seen on the big screen.

In more or less the order in which I've seen them:
-The Getaway - first on TV in a Czech dub (awkward, but still pretty impressive), then on the big screen, and then at home again only to listen to the audio commentaries on the DVD
-Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid - many repeated viewings on the big screen (Turner preview), at home only to listen to the audio commentaries (preview and Special edition). I've also rented a VHS in Italy once to see the theatrical release.
-The Wild Bunch - on the big screen, many repeated veiwings (it's quite distressing to see how cuting a few frames each time the reals are glued together shorten the film at each viewing - as there's probably only one copy of the film in Paris, and they keep showing it quite regularly: the scene after the bunch crumbles in the sand, where Pike gets back on his horse, seems to be disappearing behind a dune and then reappears, has now been shortened to the point when Pike actually almost doesn't disappear behind the dune at all), at home only to listen to the audio commentaries. One of the most memorable screenings was on the giant screen of the Grand Rex Theater in Paris, with about 2000 other people, and the attendance of Ernest Borgine and Bo Hopkins.
-Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia - on the big screen on many repeated viewings, at home only to listen to the audio commentaries
-Ride the High Country - twice or three times on the big screen, at home only to listen to the commentaries
-Major Dundee - several times on the big screen (original studio release), at home once to see how the films works in the extended version with Caliendo's score and to listen to the commentaires
-Straw dogs - many times on the big screen, at home only to listen to the commentaries
-Cross of iron, Convoy, The Ballad of Cable Hogue, Junior Bonner - I guess I've seen these ones only once on the big screen, and only after having seen them at home. I think the first tim I saw Convoy, it was on French TV, and in a French dub. Awkward to say the least.
-The Killer Elite, The Osterman Weekend, The Deadly Companions - never seen these ones on the big screen, only at home. I'd love to see them in a theater.
-I've seen Sam's TV work on DVD first, but I have been lucky enough to see my favourite ones, Noon Wine and The Westerner, on the big screen during the Bologna retrospective

Of the films Sam wrote, somehow worked on or appeared in, I've only seen China 9, Liberty 37 on the big screen, but in an Italian dub. (Awkward)
And there's that Spanish film, Un pasota con corbata, that I still haven't had the chance to locate and that I haven't seen yet...

Title: Re: Films on the big screen
Post by Evy Angel Jones on 04/11/15 at 3:28am
You're so lucky. I've never seen none Peckinpah's film on the big screen :(
What's "Un pasota con corbata" ?

Title: Re: Films on the big screen
Post by Robert Blenheim on 04/11/15 at 9:01am
On the big screen, I've seen "Ride the High Country" (at a revival of it in a festival in Washington, D.C. in the 70's, I believe); "Major Dundee" (a couple times when released);  "The Wild Bunch" (over 40 times in the theatre -- but NOT when it first arrived -- and a memorable one at the Playboy Theater in NYC -- I tracked it down all over N.J. & Penn. -- and at NY festivals -- during the 70's.), "Ballad of Cable Hogue" (at a couple of film festivals) -- and every Peckinpah film thereafter.  One note: I was a REAL film projectionist for a number of years and projected on their first release "The Getaway" and "Cross of Iron".  ("Deadly Companions" is the only Peckinpah feature I have not seen on the big screen.)

Title: Re: Films on the big screen
Post by mike bishop on 04/11/15 at 5:38pm
I stopped watching 'important' films at home with friends. There you have the dramatic key scene of the film and a friend says: ''do you find her wardrobe convincing??''
So I'll stick with comedies now :).
In fact it makes me slightly agressive when people do not have the
ability to sit (STILL) for 100 minutes to watch a film. And THEN even bitch about it as if the film is responsible for them not being able to get it all (or most of it). Reminds me of Tarantino who had to defend PULP FICTION (was it?) many years ago because certain people couldn't follow it all. He said ''One needs to watch the film to follow it, all I'm asking is people to fully watch the film...' Or words to that effect. I'll sign that any day.
As for the BIG SCREEN, nothing can beat it of course :).
In fact I started liking DUNDEE really for the first time when I saw it on the biggest screen at the Munich Film Festival 2005. Of course the added footage helped a lot, but the sheer size of the spectacle lifted it up tremendously.
Yesterday I watched FISTFUL OF DOLLARS in a cinema (together with Eastwood's Bavarian co-star Marianne Koch!). YEAH.
I want my own cinema damn it :). I once came pretty close... But then I wouldn't film & write which wouldn't be acceptable I think :).

Title: Re: Films on the big screen
Post by Gashade on 04/11/15 at 6:07pm

Evy Angel Jones wrote on 04/11/15 at 3:28am:
What's "Un pasota con corbata" ?

A Spanish film Sam has a cameo in:
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Title: Re: Films on the big screen
Post by Evy Angel Jones on 04/12/15 at 11:40am

mike bishop wrote on 04/11/15 at 5:38pm:
There you have the dramatic key scene of the film and a friend says: ''do you find her wardrobe convincing??''

Or "I'm searching the name of this actor, who is he ?" Aaaargh, I HATE that !!! When I watch a film, I'm IN the story and I hate to be disturb.


Gashade wrote on 04/11/15 at 6:07pm:
[quote author=43707F59476861636A594C69686375060 link=1428720345/1#1 date=1428737296]What's "Un pasota con corbata" ?

A Spanish film Sam has a cameo in:
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Ok, thank you very much. I've never seen this film.


Title: Re: Films on the big screen
Post by Gashade on 09/23/15 at 4:24pm
Interesting experience: I've just seen The Osterman Weekend in a theater for the first time. I'd seen the film several times at home of course, as well as several times in the alternative cut issued with the DVD extras by Anchor Bay. So I thought I could not really be surprised. And yet...
Well, I actually found it quite better than I thought I would and a lot more powerfull, despite its quite obvious flaws! I would actually love to see it again on the big screen.
And I can't wait to see Deadly Companions, The Killer Elite at the French Cinematheque, as well as Convoy!

Title: Re: Films on the big screen
Post by mike bishop on 09/23/15 at 5:06pm
Well KILLER ELITE & CONVOY certainly belong up there on the big screen. They gain tremendously once projected in a cinema. The cinematography of both films is so good, it works very well against some of the flaws of both films :).

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